all right so um true olivia told me where you guys went and he said what you did but um it's like what was fun about it and what was not fun about it and no sorry i'm just Fun is always the right word. I mean, it was interesting for her. There were parts that were actually really interesting. And it was like, fun to be really fine. That is what I was doing with this. And I think that, like, the most beautiful thing I was saying is that she had her own way. That was interesting.

[01:01]

I was so good. city. We see a great city. We're in the city divide. We get in the center of it every day. And to be there, we see all the nice grocery restaurants. We go out. We walk to this system, which, like, you know, wait to go across there. You go up and It's like orange juice from the side of the road. And it's a circuit. You see that markets for the touristy markets are a lot of fast at first. It's like markets for the people who are there. And then, like, it's immense. I had no idea that books are that popular.

[02:04]

Yeah. I mean, you went from, like, literally nice, like, old colonial-style Spanish buildings to, you know, a billion texts set up with tons and tons and tons and tons of merchandise everywhere. In every corner, it was sheep and people trying to rob you left and right. And a little old lady tried to rob me. I thought it was like a joke. I'd, like, take some stuff back. I was like, are you okay? I guess I just... And people rob you because they need the money. They're not robbing you. They want your cool stuff. You know, like, whatever. Yeah, I remember, like, when I went to the last year, it was like, you're on one side of the corner. It's like, oh, you're used to. And then, so, I mean, it's like you get just across the corner, like, through it. Just these shots, you know, for miles. Yeah. I mean, how can that, like, put this next to each one else? Yeah. Or, I mean, it's even more devastating on the open.

[03:04]

It's actually really interesting. But, like, you, we went to Atlantis, and it was just a small town. But it's a small town with internet cafes. And I guess large, but nonetheless, I mean, it is east town, or the internet. We have a phone line to push the toilets and stuff. And then, you know, we hop on the back of the truck. They go up in the mountains. I went through the Andes up to the village, like, probably a half hour ride up back to the tower. And then we are in a little village that lives the same way they did during, you know, you know, electricity, you know, real plumbing. Everyone does little straw cuts that they don't have their attention to something inside. That's lots of smoke, so. I mean, it's that room being smoky and they all put their on fire because it's just coming through the room. I mean, eh. Awful reference.

[04:05]

I feel like you're in the middle of Nashville, too, kind of thing. Yeah, Olivia was saying, like, it's something you see in pictures, and it's like, yeah, cool, but that's... Yeah, actually, I mean, I didn't even experience that much. That'll be so high to sit. You're in the middle. But, um... Yeah. I mean, people would say, oh my god, these traditional costumes. They're like, that's not even the right word for them. That's what they wear, everything. I was like, so colorful. And I was like, red. So like, it's a big brown, a green brown. Like, red dots everywhere. Like, if you want, you have to wear red. That's really beautiful. Very beautiful. Yeah, I mean, it's like, not even a foreigner, like, smelly. Awful. Like, you know what I mean? Like, the point where you're just kind of like, OK, it's all going to go away. I'm going to get over it a little bit. They just do that. But yeah, Olivia and I sat on a rock.

[05:07]

Just watched. Like, I got up and walked down. It's like the only street, I guess. And having said, it looked like. like straw over her type thing. She was saying like a lot, basically a lot of it involves, right? Like from what you're saying. Like, yeah, basically they didn't talk to me as tourism. Did you feel like it was just so that any, We're used to this, obviously. Do you think we're being perceived in a certain way? Well, that's nice. See, I don't think it's down all of the tourists side of it. Because how much you try to avoid if you are tourists or Spanish. Yeah. I mean, it's nice to be new people down there.

[06:11]

So they do things that weren't necessarily guidebooks. But I mean, like going to the town, I was five days when she was supposed to. She had like sleep there like that night. So probably walked through it. It's the entire town. Like every single business town. I was so frustrated. Good day things about that. Like there was the landslide. There's a landslide walking. I think you read about it though. Five months. by Machu Picchu. We're in a town close to it, ready to go to Machu Picchu. That's the last night that I killed 11 people. And it's crazy. I walked over the house. It was on the tracks. But I killed 11 people. And in there, like, 20 people around, for 11 people, you die.

[07:17]

And it just It just really, really looks like what is their own separate because they concentrate so hard. As opposed to like the 40 people who are trying to get you to go to the restaurant as you would like walk up, you know, the main restaurant of your strip. You know, it just seems so disproportionate. And I mean, I wish you had, I know we have a photograph in the back, but you walk up this main strip out of these restaurants and Every single restaurant, every single restaurant has the exact same thing. But, like, I mean, it all looks, it's all kind of fake and nice. It's all good stuff. But, I don't know if it's broken, but it's all trying to look so nice. I feel like, go back. And then the back is like, it's just shack, built on top of shack, built on top of shack. And you add a cement thing on top. Like, there's an earthquake prior to having it.

[08:20]

You have to wonder, like, if the tourism was... Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, it was like that. It was entirely about tourism. If you give money to people, like, buy these things, it was mad. But, like, how... What can you do to make yourself sufficient? exist economically without the funders. But, I mean, with the counter, it's not convenient. I mean, they brought eight painters, so they brought industry into Lima, which is accessible because it's on the coast. But Lima was awful and barren and just bring the poor, industrial look, but in the absolute worst way, the game, empty.

[09:24]

I have never seen such a dead large city in my life. Like, it was like shocking. I was like, where is everyone? It was like... Yeah, there's someone like, you have to buy it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I know it's an awkward, but like, you have to impress people. Yeah, so it's like, how do you do that? Like, how do you do that in a way that's not like, OK, we're coming in to help you because you don't need, or we're posing on something. Yeah. Like, I don't know how much I mean when I can do something like that, but how do you do it in life?

[10:31]

Yeah, I mean, there's different people who are in, like, smaller villages that you said goodbye. And this is also outside, you know, it's not made to themselves. entirely because, you know, people who have animals who live up in these villages are really, you know, and there's stuff like, there's like little, yeah, groups that help in certain places. Even that, though, it's like immediate relief for a holiday. That's not all the fact that there's no family income or that there's no, you know, existence built where they can live off. It's not, you know. Did you talk to a lot of people there?

[11:33]

I mean, I know. Yeah, it was nice because I spoke Spanish. It was tough because a lot of it was, you know, like little kids separate something to you. Like, I'll be nice to you. Just like, you know, I just don't want to talk to you too, you know. But it was nice to touch with me down there. Touched them a lot. I just talked about it. I didn't understand Spanish at all as well. It's kind of hard to understand Spanish for kids. They talk so fast and all that stuff. And it's weird to see if she works. Okay. What should I say? I am the plague again. Yep. [...] Do well on the Spanish AP.

[12:35]

Thank you. Oh, I know. I read that. I know. I was thinking about how I would probably be homeless also. Hello. Join him. But he said, he said I wasn't worried about getting kicked out of the library, only about getting kicked out of NYU. So I love that. Here, stop the voting. What? Can the youth be against you? Is it for the interview that you have? I guess. Let me. on two small tops. Like, well, it's just, you know, I got to do a job, and work, [...]

[13:43]

Oh my god, it was so weird. Oh my god, it was so weird. And I was like, no, do you think anyone can ever figure that out? No. But it's not what we've tried for, to get all out. And then I started talking about reaching weird fauna. Like, I was like, but if we can't, what's the point of looking at it? And if we got like a meaning of life figuring it out, and it's not what we always want, and it's not why we say it's like, [...] when they say, [...] Um, I don't know if it's going to test it, though.

[14:47]

Yeah. If it doesn't work, you know, like, how do you do it? Probably remember. Okay, so, what part is, or the parts of Paris, did you visit? Like, was it in the city, the country, uh, all in the place? Uh... We flew into Lima, and we only spent one night there. So basically we drove through at like 1 o'clock in the morning and left at 7 in the morning. So we only stayed at the hotel, really didn't see that much. And then we flew to Griscau. Lima's the capital of Peru, and it's like the capital of, it's like a chicken capital. Oh, we went there. Oh, wait, I forgot. Did you want to get on an interview? Oh, no, we were just, we figured, like, I was going to do you guys together. Oh, okay. When I hadn't started. Um, that's, like, what part of it?

[15:51]

Right. That's what we were speaking, you know. I thought. So, you, uh, first you went to Lima, but, like, only took a little while, and you went with it. Yeah, it's good. It's like a bunch of cities have, I mean, it's not a very convenient place, so it's not like a center of industry or commerce or anything, but it is where the colonial empire was set up, and it is where it was set up, and it's historically, it's... Very cool. So is it... Like a big city or rural? It's sort of a big city. It's a pretty big city, but not... It's a big city, but because it's so poor, you go to parks and it looks great, you know? There is countryside. You go up and buildings... It's not...

[16:52]

That's not what I call them when they get a big city out there. It's a different kind of big city. We also spent time going to contribute to the cities along. So, and you guys were there for a while. Um, I only, I had, like, these horrible dad cats. What sort of things could you do that, it's like, what, what's that kind of cool day, or, um... Wait, sure, do you want to do them separately? Because I feel like we're going to, like, cut off each other's, like... ...together. Okay. Um... I'll say this better than anything, but... So we did a lot of different stuff.

[18:02]

When we first came in Lucuzco, we stayed in the city and we basically walked around and looked at a lot of the stores. We met some people who lived there. That was really cool. A couple of days later, we took a taxi on a taxi, which is a city that has a train going to Machu Picchu. It had a train going to the city right outside of Machu Picchu, so we stayed there. It's the closest accessible city to Machu Picchu that you can get to by something that you take a train and get to. So, suppose you end up with me without doing the Machu Picchu thing. Well, we stayed there for a while.

[19:04]

And we did a trip to Machu Picchu with us, like, four days. And then, about... Sorry. That's not going to be bad. That's what happened. I'm just proud. Um, so you guys were saying, like, to Kelzman? Yeah, we stayed relatives. No, we don't have any relatives. There was people that my aunt knew. Oh. She'd been there before. And then we stayed in hostels. And they were really pretty hostels. But, um, they had, like, yeah. Oh. And so we were, we did our whole trip to Machu Picchu sort of in four or five days. And then we... We came back to Cusco, and we basically went to markets there, hung out with some other people, and did some shopping.

[20:09]

Yeah. Oh, so you said you hung out, like, didn't mean to be a living. My aunt had done that before so she knew some people that, well basically her friend was supporting her family and so she went to go visit them and we ended up hanging out with them. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So just like similarities, differences probably very, very in the United States.

[21:16]

It's what stood out. It was really different. More so than I started. It was really sad to go there. It was really sad when we had to go there because they're part of me based on tourism. And these people are really, they're just really bored. And it's really, and you just, I don't know, you look at their opportunities, it's really sad because, like I met a girl and she's going to school for tourism, you know, to learn how to go on street. And it's really, it was just really sad to think that that was from any opportunity, you know? Like, I'm sitting here thinking, oh, what a wonder how it would be when I grow up. And the best opportunity that she had is to work in the tourism industry.

[22:18]

And you think, you know, that must suck if that's not what you want to do, you know? I mean, and that's, I mean, and that's the fact. Most people don't even have that opportunity. That's really sad. But she was, like, relatively fortunate. Yeah. And she was, like, really fortunate, so. Yeah, and then there's, like, And then you're going shopping, too, and you're buying these intricate, I know, fabrics that people make by hand, and they're like, they've got to be only like $5, you know? And it's just really sad. Yeah. So just basically... But the thing is, it's not sad. It's really sad from the standpoint I'm coming from, but then also, like, you also look at the way these people form communities and how, you know, close-knit they are, and that was really nice.

[23:22]

Yeah. Oh, no, that was what amazed me, like, when I was here last year. Like, at first, you're just, like, blowing your way back up where everything was. Yeah. And then you start going to, like, And yeah, there's all the stuff you can see, it's like huge separation from your life, but then there's like all these, like, meanings they have and just, like, how everyone knows each other and everyone, you know, with everything. I mean, it's not like, you know, okay, I don't know how to do that. It was like, there was a lot of people who sold on the streets, like sold postcards, the young kids, people who, like, I mean, little girls who were six years old asking for, to get paid to take a photograph or something, or take my age. And it's really sad, but then it's also, I mean, they're with, it's interesting because it's like, it's with all their friends and sort of hang out. It's sad and, I don't know. It's a very different way of living.

[24:25]

How do you think you were like seen or treated or perceived as an American or, I mean, as a therapist or whatever, like how did it feel like And correspond with me. It's hard to tell because I got the feeling sometimes because their economy is so based on tourism, I got the feeling that it's... I thought, well, maybe, you know, these people are just really nice to me because they know my, you know, business. And, I mean, it seemed like they were genuinely nice. Yeah, it seemed like... Hi, Russia! It seemed like they were really nice. There wasn't, aside from the, you know, maybe anti-push graffiti on the wall, there wasn't that much of an anti-American or anti-terrorism segment. It didn't even seem like they were bitter about the fact that there was so many stories up through it.

[25:29]

It was nice. They were all really friendly whether or not it was... Whether or not they're motives for business or just being friends. So let's see. What did you, I don't know. I guess what did you learn or how was your perception of shade? Has it made you aware of anything, you know, that you're going to try to keep it hot? Oh, it's okay. It's okay. Okay. Okay. It makes me... Well, I mean, it obviously makes me really grateful for the opportunities I had. And it also... It also gave me a really big opportunity because I still keep in touch with the people that I met. So it gives me an opportunity to help these people out, you know? And I have connections to people that you actually know and do something with your help. And I think...

[26:31]

I think that's really great because if I hadn't gone, there'd still be an opportunity to help, but not with the same personal connection. And I think that's what I really enjoyed about. It's just meeting people who were from there and learning about their experiences more than one. And I also come back with it. I feel more comfortable speaking Spanish. Well, that's good. Yeah, I was talking to little kids who were mumbling for a long time, so it was like, it's sort of difficult. I'm always intimidated. I'm always intimidated. I think I'm always intimidated. Like, when I was a co-owner, when I was, like, young, caring, junior year, and, you know, people would come in, you know, and, you know, I knew I could probably tell them, but I would just be so afraid, and then make fun of those students.

[27:33]

They just seemed really pathetic, you know. I sort of got over that. That's great, yeah. Yeah. I figured, you know, so I don't care so many amazing mistakes in English, but I figured they could probably take the final stage in Spanish. Yeah. So you learned, you say you learned about people's personal experiences, so like your own the traits in the industry? Yeah, anything else? Um, yeah, yeah. Just like... Oh, thank you. Okay, you can say... I also, well, also that's just, um, um, so... They had, like, Native people living there, and I got to see some of that stuff, and that was, that was really eye-opening, because don't, I mean, you can see it in National Geographic, and see, you know, these groups of people and stuff, but when you actually get to see them, and see the market, and see them doing everyday stuff, and I actually got to go into one of their houses and everything, it was just,

[28:44]

It makes it so much more real. I mean, it's obvious, but yeah. Very cool. So you sort of already answered it, but like what was fun and then what wasn't fun? Or was there something that was like hard to hear? What wasn't fun was getting sick. I got sick like the second night. Sort of ruined a couple of days after that. But not ruined, but I don't know. It was fun. It was really fun going around town. We went to like a dance club and that was sort of fun. Definitely different in that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, just stop it. Like, what advice would you give someone who's going to visit another country and, you know, a little country? Okay, talk to people. It helps. It's so interesting, just like, I didn't, per se, I didn't really talk to that many strangers, just because, it's not, it's not, it's not exactly that easy for me to share in a foreign country, but my aunt was really, she was really, you know.

[30:11]

So you guys still with your aunt? Yeah. So she was really like, you know, she would just talk to random people at restaurants and you find a lot of interesting stuff when you learn about different people and what they've been doing, traveling. And most of them speak English, so most of them travel is fun. And that's why I think you can learn a lot about that. By talking to a lot of other people, you also open yourself to opportunities to, you know, going around with them and seeing how they do stuff because people are really very open and willing to invite you to places with them.

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